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Editors Note: Excuse the photo, but it fits so well with the below text.
Last evening on the Rorate Caeli blog we get a translation from an interview published in the German newspaper Die Tagespost that appeared on the 25th of February, 2015. The interviewee, as you might have guessed, is our favorite German cleric, the occupier of the most “swankiest” bachelor pad in München (see here), Archbishop of Munich-Freising, a prime engineer of Vatican reforms and one of the main players in this season of the Church (see here), the Cardinal of “Bling” himself, His Eminence Herr Reinhard Marx.
However, Cardinal “Bling” was his not his usual jovial self. In order to judge for yourselves, here’s a selection of quotes and this humble bloggers comments:
Let’s start off with this gem:
In the universal church there were “certain expectations” of Germany. He hoped that some questions could already be tackled before the synod, Marx told journalists in Hildesheim on Tuesday [Feb 24].
Hmmm. I wonder what those “certain expectations” of Germany by the “universal church” could possibly be? What we need is a definition of what card. Marx means by “universal church”.
Here is my take on this above conundrum.
What I think Card. “Bling” Marx is trying to say is that it is not so much what the “certain expectations of Germany” are by the universal church, but rather what “certain expectations” Germany has of the universal church. Now if we read card. Marx’s words in this manner, the rest of the article begins to make sense.
So let’s take this assumption out for a spin, shall we?
As to the statement “questions could already be tackled before the synod”, this is a strange request. Wasn’t the synod called to “tackle certain questions” in an atmosphere of synodality and collegiality? Oh, and Christian Unity? Almost forgot that one.
Besides, sounds a lot like a “certain expectation” that Germany would have of the universal church, doesn’t it? An expectation to change the
doctrine practice by fiat, which would make any decision of the Stealth Sex Synod a fait accompli.
So what gives?
What gives, IMHO, is that card. “Bling” Marx and the German Bishops’ Conference leadership is getting nervous. The Secret Synod of Sin of 2014 was supposed to be “fixed” by
Herr card. Baldiserri (see here), but then it became “unfixed”. So now that card. Marx is requesting a “fix” before the synod even begins, can easily be read as a sign that the good cardinal is “losing faith in the fixers process”. In other words, Marx is worried that Francis and his Manipulators will not deliver the goods. So what Marx and the German hostage takers negotiating team want is what is called a “hedge”. They want to change the doctrine practice before they go into the Stealth Sex Synod of 2015, so that it can not get “un-fixed” again.
So let’s see if we can find any more data points to confirm our above assumption?
Doctrinally, one would remain within the community of the [Universal]Church, but in detailed questions of pastoral care “the synod cannot prescribe in detail what we must do in Germany”. Therefore, the bishops wanted to publish their own pastoral letter on marriage and family after the synod. It was not the duty of the bishops to wait for permissions.
What his “Blingness” Marx is saying here is that even if Francis does not deliver, they “reserve the right” to make their own decisions, regardless of what the Catholics decide. Sounds like another “certain expectation” that the Germans have of the universal church.
“We are no subsidiaries of Rome. Each conference of bishops is responsible for pastoral care in its culture, and must, as its most proper task, preach the Gospel on our own. We cannot wait for a synod to tell us how we have to shape pastoral care for marriage and family here”.
What Herr Marx is saying here is that he explicitly and his “paymasters” implicitly, don’t care about Rome or Catholicism. Why can we bring his “paymasters” into the picture at this point? Simple. Can anyone ever remember a cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church speaking in this manner. What else can the explanation be?
Besides, more “certain expectations” if you ask me.
To finish the thought, the Germans are saying that they own the “franchise” rights to the Roman Catholic Church brand in their lands, and they will make the final
corporate decisions Lord’s pastoral calls. The target of this message is Francis and it’s what can be called “negotiating from a position of strength”. Think Kirchensteuer!
And now we can add the observance of card. Marx not being happy with card. Pell (see here) letting it be known that the Vatican is in sound financial shape, and we get a much clearer picture of the German church’s “certain expectations” of the universal church.
At this point one is left asking himself: how does this promote “synodolty” and “collegiality”? And Christian Unity too?
According to the German bishops’ position, the reality of life constitutes an important factor for the doctrine of the Church. “We also learn from life in doctrine,” underlined Cardinal Marx. Franz-Josef Bode, Bishop of Osnabrück, called in this context the synod “historically important.” According to his view the participants do not only debate questions of marriage and family, but the possibility of a paradigm shift.
So it was about the “paradigm shift” all along, i.e. change of doctrine. And more “certain expectations” from the universal church become evident.
Thanks for the confirmation.
But just in case anyone still needs more proof as to the REAL AGENDA of our Germanic
partners negotiators and the message that they are trying to convey to Francis, the bishop of Rome, here another good one:
The basic question was, are only Scripture or Tradition sources for theological understanding, or are [such sources] also “the reality of men and of the world.” [Bode,] The chairman of the pastoral commission of the bishops’ conference reminded his audience of the “dialogical structure” of reality, which had already been mentioned in the pastoral constitution “Gaudium et Spes” of Vatican II, and quotes this conciliar document: “there is nothing truly human, that has no resonance in their hearts.”
Ah yes. Reality as defined by Herr Marx. Three men and a baby is just fine, as long as the wording is correct. Fifty Six “shades” of gender? Hey, it’s a pastoral solution. And this:
Bode stated that it was important for him that the Sacrament [of the Eucharist] was not only a sign of unity, but also a means to unity, and could contribute to healing.
Ah, yes, Unity?
But not necessarily a “Christian Unity” I gather.
But how does a strict definition of “Unity” work with the below passage:
We are no subsidiaries of Rome. Each conference of bishops is responsible for pastoral care in its culture, and must, as its most proper task, preach the Gospel on our own. We cannot wait for a synod to tell us how we have to shape pastoral care for marriage and family here”
Just so you dear reader understand this correctly, “Unity” in the eyes of the German hierarchy is for when communion wafers need to be distributed to everyone, but when the German Church wants to separate itself from the Roman Catholic Church in order for it to execute its own
corporate strategy Lord’s pastoral call, well then… See, dear reader, that is also “Unity”.
Or to put it into our framework, using logic and assigning an objective meaning of words for understanding Card. “Bling” Marx, here is what we derive:
Unity in the mind of the German heirarchy and card. Marx is when the Germans have “certain expectations” of the universal church, but not when the universal church has “certain expectations” of them.
You see dear reader, because in the “reality” in which card. Marx exists, “Unity” is for thee, but not for me.
And this is the message that Cardinal Marx has just sent over to the bishop of Rome, Francis.