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As Cardinal Burke and the other 3 signatories of the Dubia, along with the remaining 25 or 30 princes of the Church who presently support them, but have not been officially named yet, set out on the PROCESS of correcting a materially heretical pope, I think it is only fitting to remind all my loyal and dear readers about the genesis of this process itself. This process was initiated by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre on the 21st of November, 1974.
The argumentation for the above observation falls into the category of making a counter-factual case. Yet it must be presented since no better context can be provided, given that neither official nor personal archives of the individuals responsible for the destruction of the Sacred Liturgy or the institutional Church in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s have yet to appear.
Therefore, the argument for the genesis of the current process of correcting a pope and its abbreviated timeline are as follows:
- Without the foundation of the Society of St. Pius X in 1970 by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, there would have been no need for the suppression of the SSPX in 1975.
- Without the 1974 Declaration of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, (which led to the suppression of the SSPX in 1975) the Catholic Church as an institution would most likely not be in this position where a “de-hereticization” process could have actually commenced.
- Without the suppression of the SSPX in 1975 and Modernist Rome’s continuous attempts to eliminate them, the Indult Mass would not have been provided to the Faithful in 1984.
- Without the Indult Mass, the proper liturgy whose origin was the Last Supper of Christ and His Apostles, would have been completely eliminated from the post-conciliar Church in less than 15 years.
- Without the rise of the demand for the proper liturgy and proper Catholic Faith as a result of the activities of the SSPX and subsequent Indult Mass, there would not have been a need to consecrate 4 bishops by Archbishop Lefebvre in 1988.
- Without the consecration of the 4 bishops by Archbishops Lefebvre and de Castro Mayer and their resulting “excommunication”, there would not have been the Moto Proprio Ecclesia Dei, a splitting off of the Society of St. Peter from the SSPX and the establishment of the Ecclesia Dei Commission in 1988.
- Without the establishment of the Ecclesia Dei Commission there would not have been a reduction on the restrictions of offering the Indult Masses. Please keep in mind, the lifting of the restrictions on offering the Indult Masses was a direct consequence of Modernist Rome’s strategy to lure the SSPX faithful away from the SSPX.
- Without the establishment of the Ecclesia Dei Commission and the anti-SSPX strategy, there would not have been other offshoot communities, namely the Institute of the Good Shepherd, the Institute for Christ the King Sovereign Priest and the many others, that are dynamically expanding presently and establishing the foundation for the complete Restoration.
- Without the dynamic expansion of the demand for the proper Holy Mass, there would not have been either the pontificate of Benedict XVI – who was very Tradition friendly, nor his subsequent ending of the Indult Mass with the Moto Proprio Summorum Pontificum.
- Without the complete (limited in practice) freeing of the proper Holy Mass, its rapid expansion throughout the Universal Church would not have been possible.
- Without the Benedict abdication, (and him still being alive) there has been no suppression of the Summorum Pontificum as of yet.
- If not for the continuous and glorious expansion of the proper Holy Mass under the ruinous current bishop of Rome, the attention focused on its spread and on the prelates, clergy and faithful that are responsible for this spread, would not have elicited such a violent reaction from Francis and his minions.
- If not for the violent rhetoric and continuous focus, if not outright obsession of TeamFrancis with the Restoration, the rank and file clerics and prelates in the middle and upper management would not have been alerted to the possibility, that the Restoration could be the “way forward” in which most, if not all the institutional churches problems could be resolved.
- If not for the “beachhead” and subsequent liberation of the “space” deep inside the disintegrating post-conciliar church, a battlefield environment in which the spread of the proper Holy Mass and its Restoration of the ONE TRUE FAITH is facing little resistance presently with the Catholic Faithful, faithful Catholic cardinals like Cardinal Burke would not have a base from which to resist the remnant of the “1968 hippie church”. (Waring, entering this link could cause a “triggering” effect!)
- If not for this ever expanding base of solid, Traditional Catholicism, the non-ideological rank and file prelates would not be in a position to see the Restoration as the answer to all their current problems, therefore supporting the actions of the 4 Cardinals.
- And finally, if the 4 Cardinals did not have this “sizable” support from the rank and file inside the Sacred Vatican Walls, they “might’ not have continued the process started by Archbishop Lefebvre in 1974, the process that will result in the correction of a Roman Pontiff.
Aside, with respect to point number 13, here is the supporting evidence presented by Bishop Fellay:
The Congregation for the Faith has to deal with these problems and they give the impression to put aside our problem. When in fact, already three years ago, Cardinal Muller told us in a meeting ‘ Your are occupying the Congregation of the Faith, you are obliging us to dedicate (?) to you such precious time while there are enormous problems in the Church’ So he was very unhappy to be dealing with us while there were enormous problems in the Church. At the time, I was not very happy about these things but with the time, with reflecting, yes they are facing enormous problems and suddenly what appeared to be the problem that is us (Ed note: Tradition) , maybe it looks like a solution.
Below is a republication of the 1974 Declaration of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, the Declaration which is most like the genesis of the current process that Cardinals Walter Brandmuller, a German and former president of the Pontifical Commission for Historical Sciences; Raymond L. Burke, a U.S. cardinal and patron of the Knights of Malta; Carlo Caffarra, retired archbishop of Bologna, Italy; and Joachim Meisner, retired archbishop of Cologne, Germany have engaged in.
1974 Declaration of Archbishop Lefebvre
The famous “1974 Declaration” of Archbishop Lefebvre was an affirmation of the Catholic Faith in response to the Modernist crisis afflicting the post-conciliar Church.
On November 21, 1974 Archbishop Lefebvre, scandalized by the opinions expressed by the two Apostolic Visitors, drew up for his seminarians “in a spirit of doubtlessly excessive indignation” this famous declaration as his stand against Modernism.
Ten days before, two Apostolic Visitors from Rome arrived at the St. Pius X Seminary in Econe. During their brief stay, they spoke to the seminarians and professors, maintaining scandalous opinions such as, the ordination of married men will soon be a normal thing, truth changes with the times, and the traditional conception of the Resurrection of Our Lord is open to discussion.
We hold fast, with all our heart and with all our soul, to Catholic Rome, Guardian of the Catholic Faith and of the traditions necessary to preserve this faith, to Eternal Rome, Mistress of wisdom and truth.
We refuse, on the other hand, and have always refused to follow the Rome of neo-Modernist and neo-Protestant tendencies which were clearly evident in the Second Vatican Council and, after the Council, in all the reforms which issued from it.
All these reforms, indeed, have contributed and are still contributing to the destruction of the Church, to the ruin of the priesthood, to the abolition of the Sacrifice of the Mass and of the sacraments, to the disappearance of religious life, to a naturalist and Teilhardian teaching in universities, seminaries and catechectics; a teaching derived from Liberalism and Protestantism, many times condemned by the solemn Magisterium of the Church.
No authority, not even the highest in the hierarchy, can force us to abandon or diminish our Catholic Faith, so clearly expressed and professed by the Church’s Magisterium for nineteen centuries.
“But though we,” says St. Paul, “or an angel from heaven preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema” (Gal. 1:8).
Is it not this that the Holy Father is repeating to us today? And if we can discern a certain contradiction in his words and deeds, as well as in those of the dicasteries, well we choose what was always taught and we turn a deaf ear to the novelties destroying the Church.
It is impossible to modify profoundly the lex orandi without modifying the lex credendi. To the Novus Ordo Missae correspond a new catechism, a new priesthood, new seminaries, a charismatic Pentecostal Church—all things opposed to orthodoxy and the perennial teaching of the Church.
This Reformation, born of Liberalism and Modernism, is poisoned through and through; it derives from heresy and ends in heresy, even if all its acts are not formally heretical. It is therefore impossible for any conscientious and faithful Catholic to espouse this Reformation or to submit to it in any way whatsoever.
The only attitude of faithfulness to the Church and Catholic doctrine, in view of our salvation, is a categorical refusal to accept this Reformation.
That is why, without any spirit of rebellion, bitterness or resentment, we pursue our work of forming priests, with the timeless Magisterium as our guide. We are persuaded that we can render no greater service to the Holy Catholic Church, to the Sovereign Pontiff and to posterity.
That is why we hold fast to all that has been believed and practiced in the faith, morals, liturgy, teaching of the catechism, formation of the priest and institution of the Church, by the Church of all time; to all these things as codified in those books which saw day before the Modernist influence of the Council. This we shall do until such time that the true light of Tradition dissipates the darkness obscuring the sky of Eternal Rome.
By doing this, with the grace of God and the help of the Blessed Virgin Mary, and that of St. Joseph and St. Pius X, we are assured of remaining faithful to the Roman Catholic Church and to all the successors of Peter, and of being the fideles dispensatores mysteriorum Domini Nostri Jesu Christi in Spiritu Sancto. Amen.
November 21, 1974
Econe, Switzerland
Mark Thomas said:
I don’t understand the notion that one can escape “heretical” Pope Francis by attaching one’s self to an SSPX chapel.
1. The Society of Saint Pius X has declared time and again that as Catholics, they, of course, recognize His Holiness Pope Francis as the supreme shepherd, the Pope, of the Catholic Church.
2. At each Mass offered by an SSPX priest, he, via the Roman Canon, commemorates Pope Francis as the orthodox Roman Pontiff of the True Church.
3. During Mass at an SSPX chapel, the congregation affirms — via the congregation’s “amen” — the priest’s commemoration of Pope Francis as the orthodox chief shepherd of God’s One True Church.
If Pope Francis is heretical, then the Society of Saint Pius X shares in Pope Francis’ supposed heresy. After all, the SSPX believes and insists that Pope Francis is orthodox and possesses the God-given authority to teach, govern, and sanctify the Holy People of God.
Therefore, to be attached to the SSPX is to be attached to His Holiness Pope Francis.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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Mark Thomas said:
The “correction” will fizzle. Actually, the “correction” has fizzled, thanks to Cardinal Burke’s recent interview with Catholic World Report. Anyway…
1. Cardinal Burke said that the “correction” would be very simple in nature. Therefore, we can forget about the possibility of a hard-hitting “correction” against Pope Francis.
2. Cardinal Burke declared that he never said that Pope Francis was even close to have fallen into heresy. Therefore, Cardinal Burke has just kicked the legs from beneath those who believed that via the dubia/”correction,” Pope Francis would be declared a heretic and deposed by Cardinals..
Cardinal Burke’s declaration that he doesn’t attribute heresy, not even remotely, to Pope Francis, has shattered the dreams of those who despise Pope Francis and had believed that the Four Cardinals had ended Pope Francis’ Pontificate.
Again, as Cardinal Burke made clear, he is not talking, even remotely, about Pope Francis and heresy. Therefore, Cardinal Burke has tossed a massive amount of very, very, very cold water upon the hopes of those who had believed with joy that they would witness Cardinals attach the tag of “heretic” to Pope Francis.
Thanks to Cardinal Burke’s comments in question, the “correction” has been de-clawed and de-fanged. Cardinal Burke has destroyed the hopes of those who believed that the “correction” would end Pope Francis’ Pontificate.
Now, the following is the only important question at hand: Will those who believed that Cardinal Burke/Four Cardinals would stick it to Pope Francis, denounce him as a “heretic,” then pave the way to depose him, attack Cardinal Burke when the de-fanged and de-clawed “correction” is released?
After all, many among those folks denounced Cardinal Burke viciously earlier this year when he declared that Amoris Laetitia was orthodox and 100 percent in line with Church teaching. Will said folks turn again with rage upon Cardinal Burke?
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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S. Armaticus said:
I don’t think you are reading the situation correctly. The really smart Vaticanists see it differently:
http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/1351432?eng=y
We really are living in historic times. We see a Roman Pontiff “withering on the vine” with few of his advisors wanting to support him.
He has reaped what he has sowed.
And with today’s Curia address, he has dug himself a deeper hole.
At a higher level, when looking at how governance works, one can govern with consent or with force. In primitive societies, force is all they understand. In Christian societies, it is with consent that a ruler rules his subjects. The Catholic Church is the oldest institution that is governed by consent. And Francis comes in and thinks he can change that.
One really has to wonder about his mental wherewithal.
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Mark Thomas said:
S. Armaticus said: “I don’t think you are reading the situation correctly. The really smart Vaticanists see it differently:”
I very well may have misread the situation in question. Then again, I don’t place much confidence in Vaticanists as they’ve been wrong time and again throughout the many decades of my life.
Anyway, I don’t understand as to how a showdown is pending between His Holiness Pope Francis and the Four Cardinals (or “X” amount of Cardinals).
1. Cardinal Burke has stressed time and again that he and the dubia-related Cardinals are not engaged, even remotely, in a battle against Pope Francis.
It is those on the outside who have declared that the Four Cardinals “stuck it” to Pope Francis and “trapped” him as a “heretic.” Cardinal Burke has rejected that narrative in unmistakable terms. I don’t believe that Cardinal Burke has lied about that.
2. The narrative that a showdown was pending between Pope Francis and the Four Cardinals was shattered most definitely when Cardinal Burke, via his Catholic World Report interview, declared that he never suggested that Pope Francis had fallen even remotely into heresy.
What showdown is pending when Cardinal Burke has acknowledged that Pope Francis is not tainted remotely with even the scent of heresy?
Pope Francis is not associated remotely with heresy, according to Cardinal Burke’s thinking.
Anyway, we will see about the “correction.”. But the most important thing is that God is in charge of His True Church. That is why as Catholics, we know that in the Apostolic See the Catholic Religion has always been preserved immaculate.
May Catholics everywhere embrace charity.
S. Armaticus,, thank you for having permitted me to post comments to your blog.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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Mark Thomas said:
In regard to “correcting” (supposedly)) the Vicar of Christ, long before Archbishop Lefebvre had entered that realm, did not Abbé Georges de Nantes initiate the process in question?
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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S. Armaticus said:
HI:
They say that success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan.
I understand your comment to mean that Archbishop Lefebvre’s work is now seen as a success. At least by the Ultramontanists, which happens to be the toughest crowd of all. 😉
As to what I wrote, I think it is accepted by all, even the neo-Mods that the Society that Archbishop Lefebvre is the origin of the Restoration movement in the Universal Church. It is their lineage that runs through the Ecclesia Dei and now through the 4 Cardinals correction request.
As to your observation about the holy Abbé, he was no doubt correct. Yet there were others. Problem is that they did not leave a lasting legacy.
And that is the key, in the humble opinion of this even humbler blogger.
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Cold Standing said:
What!? No all caps bolding? No red!? No, no, fuchsia!? Who has done this thing? Tell Mundabor to stick to his knitting. Are we now to be deprived of our Sarmaticus? The Mass and now this!
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dowd2015 said:
“What!? No all caps bolding? No red!? No, no, fuchsia!? Who has done this thing?”
You have made a great improvement. You prior formulaic approach tended to dominate the content.
Congratulations for listening to your friend. Surely the sign of humility.
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S. Armaticus said:
Don’t blame it on M.
It was Hilary White. If you have a complaint, write her.
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Cold Standing said:
A woman! Isn’t it always so. In my heart of hearts I knew, but Ms. White?
Enjoy your “influence”.
May God have mercy upon your soul.
Adieu.
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Akita said:
Cold,
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned? 😉 OTOH, don’t be so hard on Sarm.
Ms White may not be your cup of tea, but I do believe this blog’s content flows a little better without all the bolding which was a bit distracting. You had to ask yourself why was so much BOLDED–should be used sparingly for max effect.
Anyway, don’t shun this blog. You are a good addition to the comments section.
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dowd2015 said:
Very good summary S. Armaticas. Here are my guesses about the intermediate future:
—Pope Francis will not retract his material heresies and not resign.
—Most Cardinals and Bishops will stay with him.
—Some Bishops and Cardinals will join SSPX.
—There will be a divine intervention which will result in SSPX effectively becoming the Catholic Church.
—Most Catholics go along with Nu Catholic (Protestant) Church
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S. Armaticus said:
He will not answer, since he thinks he can ride it out.
He also thinks he can put a line of succession that will destroy any opposition to his animistic nature worship and idolatry. He is seriously mistaken. I would be surprised if the next pontiff looks anything like Francis. He doesn’t appreciate how despised he is by the Faithful and Catholic clergy. He is holed up in his little safe space, surrounded by psychopaths and yes men telling him what he wants to here. Proof is that he is always getting surprised by the reactions of the Faithful.
He has a major disaster on his hands that is the year of FrancisMercy. They will not put out the figures, even though this thing has closed a month and a half ago. Point of reference, last Jubilee Year was 2000. They got 25m pilgrims. I heard a high ball whisper figure of 21m for this one. I will bet my last dollar that he didn’t get 15m. Which is why they are so silent.
Aside, a co-worker was in Rome in August. He said there were hardly any crowds in St. Peters, but massive lines in Florence where he stayed. I heard it also said that nobody wants to see Francis. In Poland, the local clergy have no interest for pilgrimages. The only trips are around JPII significant days.
As to the most likely scenario playing out. He will be formally corrected. His pontificate will end when he dies in office, since it is not in the interest of the Catholic Cardinals either remove him or to leave. They will not give up the keys to the Vatican so that the “intrinsically disordered” can monetize it and spend the patrimony on their life styles and rent boys. They are too smart for that.
But all in all, it will be a long hot summer… and all of 2017 to boot.
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dowd2015 said:
“He doesn’t appreciate how despised he is by the Faithful and Catholic clergy.”
I had no idea this was the case. My impression is that most Novis Ordo Catholics like him or at least don’t not like him.
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Mark Thomas said:
S. Armaticus,
Hello,
In regard to the Extraordinary Jubilee of Mercy statistics:
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Jubilee:-About-900-to-950-million-pilgrims-from-around-the-world-passed-through-the-Holy-Doors-39198.html
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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Akita said:
The ideal would be our Pope retracting his errors and the work of dismantling the Novus Ordo and Vatican II commence. The next best thing is our pope condemned for his heresy and even as few as 1% of prelates, including the four cardinals and Athanasius Schneider joining the SSPX. Count me in!
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