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As I was finishing yesterday’s post, a new video produced by Stefan Molyneux came up across my radar.
One steps back…
Yesterday’s subject matter can be described as:
How do we fill those pews at all those new Tridentine Latin Masses that are springing up all over the Western world?
In yesterday’s post, I presented a situation that Dr. Jordan Peterson was made aware of as a potential source of pew sitters. That situation arose when two former combat veterans claimed that they were cured from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder by watching his videos. The subject matter in turn dealt with the nature of good and evil. The observation that your humble blogger made was that those two former combat veterans would have been much better off if they went to a priest and took advantage of the Sacrament of Confession.
And if this was a “market need” that Catholic Moral Theology could satisfy among the combat veterans, it must also apply to the wider population who, according to Dr. Peterson have similar “needs”.
So what was actually described in the post titled The Precursors Of The Neo-Neo-Neo-Thomists…, could be summed up as a secular case for the propagation of Catholic Moral Theology.
Fast forward to today. In the video above, what we now observe is a secular case being made for Catholic apologetics.
Specifically, Stefan Molyneux interview Tom Woods in his latest video. In turn, Tom Woods wrote a book titled How the Catholic Church built Western Civilization.
The video is a MUST WATCH.
For the purposes of this post, what is important to understand is the… let’s call it the “market potential” for Catholic apologetics. This potential is for the Catholic Faith that is based on natural law and natural moral law that is founded on reason and logic and above all, the pursuit of the objective truth.
You know, the Catholic Faith that was suppressed by you know who. But I digress…
I have transcribed one passage to support the above contention:
Tom Woods: So it’s not enough to just have unorthodox economics, I mean, maybe you got to look at… you got to be fair to everybody. And one final thing Stefan. You were saying that a lot of times you cover topics, you say ‘I don’t really want to have to do this but nobody else is doing it so I’ll do it.’ I’m not saying this to flatter you, I’m saying it so that we don’t get too discouraged. The fact is, there are entire think tanks out there with budgets, I don’t know, a thousand times larger than you, ten thousand times larger then yours. If they try, they couldn’t get one tenth the views you get on a youtube video. I mean, these are people who put you to sleep. I wouldn’t want my worst enemy listening to these people.
Stefan Molyneux: That’s their plan. I don’t know…
TWoods: But, you see my point. Your one guy. Now I know you have a team around you. But your one guy…
Stefan: We’re two guys. That’s the team.
TWoods: Two guys and a camera. Two guys and a camera. And somehow you built up an empire. And people criticize you, you get into trouble, you say the wrong thing, you cover the wrong topic, but it makes no difference to you because you have this empire. And if three percent of people don’t like you, what possible difference does it make? You can still go out there and produce content. That is something that has got to be something that has got to be a consolation to us, because this was impossible even 15 years ago. You can conceive of what we do every day.
Stefan: Yea, we were just talking about this, this morning. Mike and I that we’re doing a 150 million views and downloads a year. That is truly astonishing. (…) I think people recognize… and I think that’s why these conversations move people. If people recognize what was said, that if philosophy or critical thinking is not about the conclusions, any more than science is not about the conclusions. People always want to say “settled science”. Science is a process, philosophy is a process. I dare say theology is a process. There is no destination. It is a continual process of refining the Truth.
Concluding, what I would like you dear reader to take away from the above post and yesterday’s post is the scope of the potential for attracting lost souls back into the Catholic Church.
What is needed, is to return to the proper Catholic Faith, one that is founded on Faith and Reason and the pursuit of the Truth, no matte where that leads.
If the Catholic priesthood that is promoting the Restoration of the Mass of All Ages, would return to preaching the proper Catholic moral theology, i.e. dogma, they will find a fertile audience for what it is that they are preaching.
And that fertile ground is presently being prepared by individuals from the secular world such as Tom Woods, Stefan Molyneux and Dr. Jordan Peterson.
Post scriptum. It would appear that there are some in the Catholic priesthood who are beginning to understand. Below is the latest video from Bishop Fellay where he explains just this. I am posting the video below as supporting evidence. (Starts at the 20:00 minute mark of the video)
The Deus Ex Machina Blog 
An enjoyable article and accompanying videos. With both Stefan and Jordan, you can see the search for truth and the desire to know it. Since Christ left a visible Church, and we hear in the Bible, “Ask, and it shall be given you: seek, and you shall find: knock, and it shall be opened to you.”, both of these men need to acknowledge the fact that Christ, the Good Shepherd, is calling them unto salvation. If they truly want the Truth, who is Christ Himself, they will acknowledge Him, otherwise, it will be said of them, like the young man in the Gospel, “…he went away sad…”.
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Yes, Wanda. Very true.
When I look at these videos, and knowing the “academic” environment that Dr. Peterson functions in, I could see why he does his work the way he does it. He does not want to be openly religious since that would just be a distraction from his research. But he sure as heck leads his viewers/student to the supernatural threshold.
As to Stefan Molyneux, if you listen to his last video, he mentions that 1/2 of his audience are “atheists”. Since his income is derived from his viewers, he does not want to sacrifice that part of his income. The upside of that is that since he claims to be “non believing”, his message is heard by those same “atheists”. And this is a good situation since it does lead to conversions among the intellectually honest ones.
One other aspect that we need to keep in mind is that both of the above come from the protestant sects. And here we are dealing with 500 years of anti-Catholic propoganda. No matter how intellecually honest one is, it is hard to shake this mindset.
Moving on, another postive aspect to the above is that it leaves space for Catholic priests to fill. One who is filling that space is Fr. Z. His webcast tend to be on the theological side thought.
What is needed is someone who can take theology and express it in an academic form. And the ideal assets of the Church has at its disposal are the Newman Centers at the Universities.
And I think it will only be a matter of time until we start seeing signs of just this.
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Dear Armaticus,
Why you are not posting my comment? Are you offended?
Our Lady of Fatima, ora pro nobis!
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Hi:
Not at all.
For some reason, my blog has blocked your posts until I approve them. I see that this happens with others who post links.
So please feel free to comment and I will keep on approving all you comments.
BTW, I enjoy reading them. 😉
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I sometimes wonder is Dr. Peterson strays more towards a “deist” idea. He most certainly does not really understand, nor has read, scripture in detail, and with proper guidance. He carefully avoids, and has admitted, to not looking into the historical aspects of Christianity, as he admitted once on a Steven Crowder video.
Eventually one has to stop pontificating and take the leap…
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“He carefully avoids, and has admitted, to not looking into the historical aspects of Christianity, as he admitted once on a Steven Crowder video.”
Sorry, that was akward..
He has admitted, in a Steven Crowder interview, that he has not really looked into the historical aspects of Christianity.
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He has said recently that he is a “deeply religious man”. He also disparaged “dogmatic religion” while in a follow up video he said that “dogma was very important” because it provides “structure” to ones belief system.
If one reads between the lines, one can see a man close to admitting that he is in fact a Catholic, but he will not do if for professional reasons.
That is my take…
PS Same with Stefan Molyneux, although he is a bit farther away.
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S.A. Tom, Stefan and Jordan and yourself are seekers of truth and help us to do the same while providing the comfort that we are not alone in the evil forest of Liberalism.
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…..S.A. Tom, Stefan and Jordan and yourself are seekers of truth and help us to do the same while providing the comfort that we are not alone in the evil forest of Liberalism…..
How is this possible, that a Catholic who knows his faith, can possibly be a ‘truth seekers’, especially, from non-Catholics? What can one offer, who himself is in error, wandering in this world, who is just discovering (God willing) what we have for centuries. May God grant them grace to find Him and His Church! Let us not get over our heads, rather, pray for their conversion, while there’s still time. C.S. Lewis who is so praised by many Catholics, has never converted (only God Knows)…..Lewis simply thought Rome was wrong…….pride!
We, Catholics have the fullness of His Truth, the Magisterium of the holy Church, Mary Mother of God, the teachings and holy tradition from the doctors of the Church, and His saints…..there’s no need to search, His Truth was build on the ROCK + Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus! …. visible to all who seek HIM, ……even in times as we live in today…..the evil forest of Liberalism.
“The Holy Church is like a tree which, having once taken deep root and grown to a certain height, no longer needs to be carefully, watered and supported.” (Fr. Leonard Goffine’s).
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Having the Catholic faith does not mean you should stop seeking the truth of the present reality and the best way of addressing it to proclaim the Catholic faith. That is what I meant.
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Dear Michael,
Let there be peace, amongst us few.
God bless you,
Halina
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Dear ‘Ritter derImmaculata’, thank you.
In God’s time, the bells in all of Rome will ring, at the canonization of a true saint, a soldier of Christ, His Excellency Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre!
“This is why I persist, and if you wish to know the real reason for my persistence, it is this. At the hour of my death, when Our Lord asks me: “What have you done with your episcopate, what have you done with your episcopal and priestly grace?” I do not want to hear from His lips the terrible words: “You have helped to destroy the Church along with the rest of them!”
Roma…..sanctified by the blood of Sts. Peter and Paul, and countless martyrs!
Archbishop Lefebvre, pray for us Catholics!
Vivat Christus Rex!
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The term “Western Civilization” is a protestant misnomer, the Christian civilization is Roman; Archbishop Lefebvre from the notes in his last book, Spiritual Journey:
“3. The providential choice of Rome as the Seat of Peter, and the blessings of this choice for the growth of the Mystical Body of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
I believe I must add some words to draw the attention of our priests and our seminarians to the indisputable fact of the Roman influences on our spirituality, on our liturgy, and even on our theology.
One cannot deny that this is a providential fact. God, Who leads all things, has in His infinite wisdom prepared Rome to become the Seat of Peter and center for the radiation of the Gospel. Hence the adage: Unde Christo e Romano.
Dom Gueranger, in his Histoire de sainte Cecile, recounts the great part which members of great Roman families played in the foundation of the Church, giving their goods and their blood for the victory and the reign of Jesus Christ. Our Roman liturgy is the faithful witness of this.
“Romanitas” – Romanism ‑ is not a vain word. The Latin language is an important example. It has brought the expression of the Faith and of Catholic worship to the ends of the world. And the converted people were proud to sing their Faith in this language, a real symbol of the unity of the Catholic Faith.
Schisms and heresies are often begun by a rupture with Romanitas, a rupture with the Roman liturgy, with Latin, with the theology of the Latin and Roman Fathers and theologians.
It is this force of the Catholic Faith rooted in Romanitas that Freemasonry wished to eliminate by occupying the pontifical States and enclosing Catholic Rome in Vatican City. This occupation of Rome by the Masons permitted infiltration of the Church by Modernism and the destruction of Catholic Rome by Modernist clergy and Popes who hasten to destroy every vestige of “Romanitas”: the Latin language, the Roman liturgy. The Slavic Pope is the most determined to change the little which was kept by the Lateran Treaty and the Concordat. Rome is no longer a sacred city. He encourages the establishing of false religions in Rome itself, accomplishing there scandalous ecumenical meetings. He everywhere pushes for the inculturation in the liturgy, destroying the last vestiges of the Roman liturgy. He has modified in practice the status of the Vatican State. He has renounced coronation, thus refusing to be a Head of State. This relentlessness against “Romanitas” is an infallible sign of rupture with the Catholic Faith that he no longer defends.
The Roman pontifical universities have become chairs of Modernist pestilence. The coeducation of the Gregorian is a perpetual scandal.
All must be restored in Christo Domino ‑ in Christ the Lord, in Rome as elsewhere.
Let us love to see how the ways of Divine Providence and Wisdom pass by Rome. We will conclude that one cannot be Catholic without being Roman. This applies also to Catholics who have neither the Latin language nor the Roman liturgy. If they remain Catholic, it is because they remain Roman like the Maronites, for example, by the ties to the Catholic and Roman French culture which formed them.
It is, moreover, an error to speak of Roman culture as Western. The converts from Judaism brought with them from the Orient all that was Christian, all that which in the Old Testament was preparation and could be a component of Christianity, all that which Our Lord had assumed and that the Holy Ghost had inspired the Apostles to adopt. How many times do the epistles of St. Paul teach us on this subject!
God willed that Christianity, cast in a certain way in the Roman mold, receive from it a vigorous and exceptional expansion. All is grace in the divine plan and Our Divine Savior disposes all as the Romans are said to act, that is, “cum consilio et patientia or suaviter et fortiter ‑ with counsel and patience, sweetly and mightily” (Wis 8:1).
Ours is the duty to guard this Roman Tradition desired by Our Lord, as He wished us to have Mary as our Mother. “
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“The term “Western Civilization” is a protestant misnomer, the Christian civilization is Roman…”
Well, let’s not forget the Byzantines. Of course, they called themselves “Roman,” too, if you want to get down to it. But, obviously, a different kind of Roman.
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