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Now that all you dear readers are intimately familiar with the Correctio filialis de haeresibus propagatis, i.e. the Filial Correction to you and me…
Your not?
Well go an read it HERE.
PS I will re-publish it shortly so as to have it FOR THE RECORD.
One more point of order.
Up in the right hand corner, I reproduce the results of a poll done at the St. Louis Catholic blog. It would appear that a total of 674 respondents participated, which is a rather good sample size for a poll, as those who followed the Deus Ex Machina Presidential Election of 2016 coverage can confirm. It also needs to be mentioned that there would be what is known as confirmation bias since the respondents who visit this website would not be randomly selected (I know, the political polls aren’t either – but hypothetically they should be…) tend to be proper, catechized, well formed Catholics.
That being said, the poll results are SHOCKING none the less.
And with this in mind, we move to the next point of order, the Filial Correction.
Reading through this document, (see HERE) I was struck… actually, I was floored by the 5th paragraph. Still being in a state of SHOCK, I re-post it below in its entirety: (emphasis added)
Those Catholics, however, who do not clearly grasp the limits of papal infallibility are liable to be led by the words and actions of Your Holiness into one of two disastrous errors: either they will come to embrace the heresies which are now being propagated, or, aware that these doctrines are contrary to the word of God, they will doubt or deny the prerogatives of the popes. Others again of the faithful are led to put in doubt the validity of the renunciation of the papacy by Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI. Thus, the Petrine office, bestowed upon the Church by our Lord Jesus Christ for the sake of unity and faith, is so used that a way is opened for heresy and for schism. Further, noting that practices now encouraged by Your Holiness’s words and actions are contrary not only to the perennial faith and discipline of the Church but also to the magisterial statements of Your predecessors, the faithful reflect that Your Holiness’s own statements can enjoy no greater authority than that of former popes; and thus the authentic papal magisterium suffers a wound of which it may not soon be healed.
“Wow”, after coming out of my initial state of SHOCK, was my first thought.
Actually, I said something far more expletive, and not suitable for publication on this blog.
Anyways…
The reason that I was struck by this sentence is naturally by its CONTEXT.
What I mean by this is that papal positivism (whatever the pope, or bishop of Rome in this case – remember, he hates to be called a “pope”, says must be correct) was always a crypto-heresy existent among the Faithful, especially in countries where the Faithful had to fight each and every day to keep their Faith. Which in fact was most of them after the spread of Islam and the orthodox and protestant schisms.
On the other side of the papal positivist coin was always a straw man argument lurking. It went something like this: If you don’t obey the pope, you are a (fill in the blank): schismatic, protestant, sedevacantist, “rigid” and generally an all around bad person.
The MAINSTREAM Catholic position was very sparsely populated post Vatican II. This position can be described as one where the Faithful use FAITH AND REASON, not to mention frequent visits to the pocket Denzinger, to UNDERSTAND their Catholic Faith. Up until the advent of the Francis bishopric of Rome, the people that populated this ECCLESIASTICAL SPACE were the SSPX and the folks associated with The Remnant.
Aside, our unkind detractors called us “Magisterium sifters“. But I digress…
But with the rise of the Internet and the blogosphere and the a fore mentioned FrancisBishopricOfRome, this Catholic MAINSTREAM began being populated by such individuals as the folks at Rorate Caeli, Mundabor, Louie Verrecchio, Ann Barnhardt, Vox Cantoris, and most recently the Non Veni Pace blog and naturally yours truly.
So that was the lay of the land up until recently.
Over the last two or so years, actually since the “FrancisBi-Synods of Sex and Depravity”, it appeared that a part of the papal positivist crowd began to move slowly toward the MAINSTREAM.
This move became much more evident after the FrancisDocument “Joy of Adultery” was released. It was this ERROR of JUDGEMENT on the part of Francis and FrancisChurch that created the split in the post-conciliar Papal Positivist camp and, and, and…
And immediately there fell from his eyes as it were scales, and he received his sight; and rising up, he was baptized. (Acts 9:18).
Which brings me the passage from the Filial Correction. What we see before us is the next milestone being achieved. Allow me to reproduce the CRITICAL passage once again:
Others again of the faithful are led to put in doubt the validity of the renunciation of the papacy by Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI.
Let this sink in for a minute or two…
The significance of this passage can be analyzed from several points of view.
What I would like to draw your attention to is the CONTEXT, but from the post-modernist point of view. To your local FrancisPagan, who is by definition a fractional post-modernist with a subconscious Marxist under-girding, the effect of is passage is tantamount to a spike going through the vampire’s heart.
Or something like this:
Why you ask, dear reader?
Reason being that post-modernists live in their own individually constructed social reality. This reality is a VIRTUAL REALITY that exists in their minds and in the social “echo-chamber” that they populate. In this echo-chamber, just the pronouncement of an improper word will cause what is known as a “triggering effect”. Here is how this triggering effect looks in the real, or rather not-so-real world that these post-modernists populate:
Concluding, what has in fact happened, and the SIGNIFICANCE of what has happened can be summarized as follows, from a post-modernist’s point of view:
The individuals behind the Filial Correction have “normalized” the position that Benedict XVI is still Pope, Francis is False Pope.
Furthermore, and what is much, much worse is that the individuals behind the Filial Correction have “platformed” this position that Benedict XVI is still Pope, Francis is False Pope.
And to put the CatholicSpike through the heart of FrancisChurch, they have done it in a DOCUMENT, the likes that has not been seen in the history of the Catholic Church since 1333.
Folks, this is historic.
The position that your humble blogger espoused in the post titled Ockham’s Razor Finds: Benedict Still Pope, Francis Is False Pope, Universal Church in State of Necessity since 24 April, 2005, for the most part has become recognized by the post-conciliar church.
Or at least the FrancisPost-Modernists must perceive it that way…
What’s more, this document cannot be ignored. Naturally, it can be ignored by Francis, TeamFrancis and FrancisChurch. But it cannot be ignored by history and especially Catholic History. Not to mention Catholic Doctrine and Catholic Moral Teaching.
And it is less important who puts his name on it.
What’s important is that what is, that it is.
It has become an OBJECTIVE REALITY, and no amount of wishful thinking or willful ignorance from the FrancisSnowflakes can change this REALITY…
Any more than the FrancisDriver who just rams his car head-on into a tree, driving at 100 MPH can wish that tree away as if it doesn’t exist…
It, exactly like the tree, will have to be DEALT WITH!
At the future Council of Econe, perhaps…
And no wails of doom can change that…
Alea iacta est!
Mark Thomas said:
The “correction” is of interest to some right-wing Catholics who hate the Vicar of Christ. Said Catholics will go overboard in proclaiming the “correction” as an amazing, incredible, historical, tremendous moment…
…they live in a fantasy world.
There are certain right-wing Catholics who, although they hate Pope Francis, do not live in a fantasy world. Said folks have recognized that the “correction” is a useless document…a nothing story.
The fantasy world right-winger have chided said realistic right-wingers as “losers” for having recognized reality…that is, the “correction” will not change anything in regard to Pope Francis and Amoris Laetitia.
1. The True Church has promulgated Amoris Laetitia.
2. In every Catholic diocese on earth, Amoris Laetitia has been accepted as orthodox.
3. The True Church doesn’t teach heresy.
4. 99.999999999 percent of Catholics will never read…never care about the “correction.”
5. Pope Francis enjoys overwhelming love and respect among the overwhelming amount of the Holy People of God. The overwhelming amount of the Holy People of God back Pope Francis.
6. Amoris Laetitia, which is orthodox, official Catholic teaching, is here to stay.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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Mark Thomas said:
Hello, S.A.,
S.A., I realize that you must ignore the following…I realize that you’re unable to respond to the following as it shatters your claim that you accept Pope Benedict XVI as your Pope.
As you claim that Pope Benedict XVI is the real Pope…and as God has compelled you to submit to the Pope…therefore, in line with Pope Benedict XVI’s above teachings…
1. The SSPX does not possess a canonical status in the Church.
2. The SSPX has serious doctrinal issues.
3. The SSPX “ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church.”
S.A., despite your claim that you recognize Pope Benedict XVI as the “real Pope,” you refuse to accept his authority in regard to his teachings related to the SSPX.
Again, I realize that you’re unable to respond to the above at risk of destroying your credibility.
But S.A., as your brother in Christ, I hope sincerely that you will end your schism from the Holy Catholic Church.
You are obviously blessed with a brilliant mind that could be used to advance Catholicism.
Holy Mother Church loves you and desires that you submit to Her Vicar of Christ, His Holiness Pope Francis.
S.A., what does your schism from God and His Holy and True Church avail to you?
S.A., I wish you and your family peace and good health.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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Mark Thomas said:
“The individuals behind the Filial Correction have “normalized” the position that Benedict XVI is still Pope, Francis is False Pope. Furthermore, and what is much, much worse is that the individuals behind the Filial Correction have “platformed” this position that Benedict XVI is still Pope, Francis is False Pope.”
That is incorrect. The 62 signatories recognized that Pope Francis is Pope…declared that they are Pope Francis’ subjects…pledged their devotion to Pope Francis…requested Pope Francis’ Apostolic Blessing.
But let’s pretend that the document claimed that Pope Benedict XVI is Pope.
Uh-oh…that is devastating news for the SSPX.
Here is Pope Benedict XVI’s teaching in regard to the SSPX:
“The fact that the Society of Saint Pius X does not possess a canonical status in the Church is not, in the end, based on disciplinary but on doctrinal reasons.
“As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church.”
OUCH!!! That is very bad news for the SSPX
S.A., as you claim that Pope Benedict XVI is the real Pope…and as a Catholic, God has compelled you to submit to the Pope…therefore, in line with Pope Benedict XVI’s above teachings…
1. The SSPX does not possess a canonical status in the Church.
2. The SSPX has serious doctrinal issues.
3. The SSPX “ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church.”
Ouch…ouch…and ouch!
S.A., as you recognize Pope Benedict XVI as the “real Pope,” then you accept his above teachings in regard to the SSPX. Correct?
Thank you.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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Zach said:
I, too, was shocked by the language about Benedict’s resignation, but even more shocked that the dubia cardinals referenced the same topic in their latest letter to Francis:
“We do not share in the slightest the position of those who consider the See of Peter vacant, nor of those who want to attribute to others the indivisible responsibility of the Petrine munus.”
Yes, they’re protesting against that position, but it’s the kind of denial that makes one think they doth protest too much.
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S. Armaticus said:
HI Zach:
Correct. The Catholic remnant keeps bringing up the issue. They are also tying it into the current situation where a sitting bishop of Rome is promoting heresy.
The pivot will be an easy one from protest to acceptance.
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Mark Thomas said:
“The individuals behind the Filial Correction have “normalized” the position that Benedict XVI is still Pope, Francis is False Pope. Furthermore, and what is much, much worse is that the individuals behind the Filial Correction have “platformed” this position that Benedict XVI is still Pope, Francis is False Pope.”
Hmmm…they dictate to the Holy Catholic Church? That is, the True Church elected Cardinal Bergoglio as Her Pope.
The True Church declares daily the Pope Francis is Her Pope.
But the people behind the “correction” have the right to declare that this or that person is or isn’t Pope?
The individuals in question have the right to dictate to the True Church? Hmmm…
Anyway, the individuals behind the “correction” insist that they are not schismatics.
They declared that they are subject to Pope Francis.
As I noted in an earlier post, they even entreated Pope Francis to grant unto them his Apostolic Blessing.
“We respectfully ask for Your Holiness’s apostolic blessing, with the assurance of our filial devotion in our Lord and of our prayer for the welfare of the Church.”
Again, we have read two very different documents. The “correction” that I read recognized Pope Francis as the Vicar of Christ.
I don’t know as to what “correction” that you read.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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Mark Thomas said:
“The individuals behind the Filial Correction have “normalized” the position that Benedict XVI is still Pope, Francis is False Pope. Furthermore, and what is much, much worse is that the individuals behind the Filial Correction have “platformed” this position that Benedict XVI is still Pope, Francis is False Pope.”
You and I have read two very documents. The document signed by the 62 signatories…
1. Recognized Pope Francis as Pope. From the very beginning, the document addresses Pope Francis as “Most Holy Father.” They address him time and again as “Your Holiness.”
2. Declared that they are subject to Pope Francis’ authority. Several times throughout the document, the 62 signatories declared that they are Pope Francis’ subjects.
Example:
“As subjects, we do not have the right to issue to Your Holiness that form of correction by which a superior coerces those subject to him with the threat or administration of punishment.”
3. The 62 signatories entreat Pope Francis to grant unto them his Apostolic Blessing.
“We respectfully ask for Your Holiness’s apostolic blessing, with the assurance of our filial devotion in our Lord and of our prayer for the welfare of the Church.”
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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