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So today more on the Bologna School.
The background for this post is provided by a non-Catholic (formally). His name is Jordan Peterson and Dr. Peterson’s video will be used to define the proper CONTEXT for what it means to be Catholic… in the secular sense of that term.
Nota bene: And provides even more anecdotal evidence that there can only be one RELIGION and Catholicism is it!
Aside, very important discussion on the OLD PROSELYTIZATION at the 10:00 minute mark. But I digress…
The reason your humble blogger has raised this subject matter is because nobody else is doing this. Yet this is the fundamental philosophical IDEOLOGICAL school of “thought” driving TeamFrancis and Francis’ downstream decisions. To understand this, is to understand what the OBJECTIVE REALITY is within the Sacred Vatican Walls.
The reason that the Bologna School is presently being hidden under the living room rug at the Domus Sanctae Marthae homo-hostel is that it contradicts the operationally expedient Benedict=Francis NARRATIVE(B=FN).
The B=FN in turn is needed, among others to disguise the FrancisChurch in its foray into Identity Politics. Now you might say dear reader, this is a patently transparent and superficially logically fallacy, i.e. APPEAL TO IMPROPER AUTHORITY. Well folks, it doesn’t take much these days…
And the silence in this case, is proof of just this.
Another short digression. A more practical reason Francis’ identity politics need to be disguised is that,… well,… most of the money flowing into the “contributions made pursuant to Canon 1271 of the Code of Canon Law” comes from one particular identity group. (see here and here)
To understand the funding element of what can be called “post-conciliar church USA”, that in turn funds in large part the FrancisChurch, I bring you dear reader two pieces of information.
The first is the Deus ex Machina post titled USCCB Sends MASSIVE Signal To “DavosPope” That Pro-Life Movement More Important Than FrancisChurch… In that post we posited the following:
So the Catholic Bishops in these here United States have come to the realization that they are in a catch 22 situation. They are trying to hold onto the human trafficking funding, quietly appease the homosexualists, while at the same time trying to stop the atrophying of their conservative and neo-conservative funding source.
And it is this latter source of funding that is represented by the Catholic Pro-Life Movement.
The second piece of information comes via a more recent post about… wait for it… the US Catholic Bishops and their silence about the very positive decisions made by the President of the United States with respect to saving human lives. And here we are talking about the heinous infanticide that is taking place in the US and globally, but funded to a large degree by the US governments international aid payments. And coincidentally, the funding mechanism that President Trump is taking the budget cutting ax to.
In a post titled US Bishops Silent on Trump’s Many Pro-life Measures, we learn the following:
The U.S. bishops continue to attack their president on social justice issues like immigration, health care, gun control, climate change and tax reform while turning a blind eye to his many pro-life accomplishments.
So why am I bringing this to your attention?
The reason is that what we are witnessing is a “fine” balancing of interests. On the one hand, the US Catholic Bishops are frantically trying to hold on to the massive US government subsidies that they obtain from their human trafficking activities. On the other hand, they don’t want to alienate the Pro-Life (Anti-Infanticide) movement.
And here, we see this balancing act on full display.
So given the above, we go over to FrancisChurch behind the Sacred Vatican Walls.
Back to Identity Politics. One very important reason for Francis’ foray into identity politics is that this is where the money is now.
Proof of just this comes via two other pieces of information. One pertains to the massive haul that the KIRCHENSTEUER brought in to the German “church” in 2017 for the German Bishops’ Conference. (see here) While the second piece of information is the gloveling… or maybe not, since IDEOLOGY is downstream of personal interest, that the German Bishops’ Conference Vice-President is making to the homo-lobby.
So what we are seeing is a rising German economy providing a large KIRCHENSTEUER payout to the German Bishops’ Conference on a continuously shrinking payer base. The only unknown at present is the number of payers that the KIRCHENSTEUER funded German “c”atholic church lost in 2017. Below are the running totals up to 2016:
| Year | Renunciations |
| 2010 | 180,000 |
| 2011 | 127,000 |
| 2012 | 116,000 |
| 2013 | 179,000 |
| 2014 | 218,000 |
| 2015 | 182,000 |
| 2016 | 162,000 |
And the risk is obvious. Once the German economy reverts to the sick man of Europe, i.e. once the Euro currency is no more, the entire funding mechanism of not only German “c”atholic church but the entire German Bishops’ Conference’s soft power funding of revolutionary post-Modernists (cultural Marxist) movements collapses.
And in the meantime, we are watching our favorite proxy, i.e. the stock price of Deutsche Bank. (Last: 15.324, High: 18.756, Low: 9.416 – in Euros)
So now that the back-story is in place, we move onto the Bologna School.
The Bologna School is a historical school of ecclesiastical history, specializing in the history of the Second Vatican Council, and largely supportive of the so-called hermeneutic of rupture, creating a pre-Conciliar and post-Conciliar period. The leading minds of this historical school have been Alberto Melloni and Giuseppe Alberigo. (see here)
If we look at the “practical aspects” of operating under a Bologna School IDEOLOGY, one is that it allows the post-conciliar church to capture the funding from sources that would not exist if the post-conciliar church maintained continuity with the Universal Catholic Magisterium.
Therefore, if we are working from a CORRECT premise, one can then infer that the separation of the Catholic Church from the FrancisChurch is the LEAST WORST solution for FrancisChurch maintaining CONTROL over their current structure of funding.
And obviously, this control also extend to their bank accounts and the tangible assets of the INSTITUTIONAL CHURCH.
And who is creating the major problem standing in the way for this transition and “smooth sailing” of FrancisChurch going forward?
Well, returning to our objective source, i.e. Wikipedia, why it’s these people:
Among the critics of the School have been Vatican chief historian Walter Brandmüller, Italian historian Roberto de Mattei, and Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (now Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI). In contrast, they assert that the Second Vatican Council was a hermeneutic of continuity with the past.
Which crushes the B=FN.
Going forward, and given that the proper CONTEXT is provided above, who is the most prominent figure of the Bologna School movement, and the designated candidate to take over for Francis once he passes on to his JUST and Merciful “reward”?
To answer that question, we turn to Sandro Magister. Here is that information:
15 November, 2011 A Bologna School Cardinal?
From Chiesa:
The school of Bologna is getting the purple
One of its prominent representatives, Luis Antonio Tagle, will soon be made a cardinal. He was the one who wrote the key chapter in the world’s most widely read history of Vatican Council II, interpreted as a rupture and “new beginning.” But in the curia this has been kept quiet.
And here is our observation from a few weeks ago here.
See folks, the posts write themselves…
So what does this all mean?
Well, if we put the information from Dr. Peterson’s video and the FrancisChurch foray into Identity Politics, combined with an OBJECTIVE understanding of what is in fact the hermeneutic of rupture, one base assumption that can be made becomes very apparent.
And that assumption is this:
It Can No Longer Simply Be Said That The Post-conciliar church Is Catholic!
UPDATE 07:45 11 January, 2018
Oh my!
Like I said earlier, the posts write themselves:
… with this kept in mind…
The Deus Ex Machina Blog 
What an opportunity to reflect on the ‘Power and Greatness of God!’, and who we are not.
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Yes it is. The scenery is spectacular and quite overwhelming…
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Dear Armaticus,
I pray that you and yours are well.
In JMJ,
Halina
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Hi:
Thank you for your thoughts and prayers. The family and I are in the mountains for our annual ski vacation.
So all is well,…
SA
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0:56 -What wouldn’t he say? “The Church is right, but I don’t want to go there”?
Blasphemy at about 3:00. 😡
Other than that, some good points.
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Sam–Here is a pertinent article entitled “Where is the New Theology Leading us” by Fr. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange, O.P.
Click to access _Where%20is%20the%20New%20Theology%20Leading%20Us__%20-%20Garrigou-Lagrange%2C%20Reginald%2C%20O.P_.pdf
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Speaking of “stacking the deck”, if KingFrancisI (the Dictator Pope) truly comes up with an Oath of Fidelity to his wonderful “self” then the course is either full revolt or a capitulation to FrancisChurch which will take many, many years to fix. The FrancisChurch and the TrueChurch may need to say goodbye to one another in a way that does not produce a sedevacantist sect which will be a real trick to pull off. We need to pray that the majority of Bishops renounce any such move on the parts of Francis to force his idealism upon the Church. A good number of the uninformed are willing to follow his lead as the pied piper or the leader of the lemmings running to the cliff.
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“So even if Francis were to sodomize an altar boy on St. Peter’s Square while drunk and on opiads in front of the cameras, he is still the bishop of Rome “formally” until the valid Church authorities do what they have pledged their life to do.”
S.A.
His Holiness Pope Francis is the Bishop of Rome “formally,” officially…in every way. The True Church has declared that Pope Francis is the Vicar of Christ…”formally,” officially…in every way.
Anyway…
— Who are the “valid Church authorities”?
“Valid Church authorities” are those who are in communion with the Pope Francis. That is Catholicism 101. The True Church teaches that to exercise valid ministries within the Church, Her ministers must maintain full-communion with the Pope.
The True Church teaches that the Church’s valid ministers are subject to His Holiness Pope Francis. They do not possess the authority to judge the Bishop of Rome.
God commands each Church authority, as well as each laymen…everybody…to submit to Pope Francis’ authority to rule the Church.
Therefore, S.A., what can “valid Church authorities” do in regard to Pope Francis?
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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““Valid Church authorities” are those who are in communion with the Pope Francis. That is Catholicism 101.”
So there were none prior to PF? How about when JPII died and we dealt with Sede vacante? No Catholics authorities?
You seem to be confusing the Office and an individual person.
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To: johnfkennedy63: “So there were none prior to PF? How about when JPII died and we dealt with Sede vacante? No Catholics authorities? You seem to be confusing the Office and an individual person.”
Thank you for your response.
The Church has Her teachings that pertain to an interregnum.
Now, as to when She elects Her Roman Pontiff, such as His Holiness Pope Francis:
The True Church teaches that each Catholic must maintain communion with the Bishop of Rome to, in turn, main communion with the True Church.
For example: The True Church declared the following at the First Vatican Council:
“Wherefore we teach and declare that, by divine ordinance, the Roman Church possesses a pre-eminence of ordinary power over every other Church, and that this jurisdictional power of the Roman Pontiff is both episcopal and immediate.
“Both clergy and faithful, of whatever rite and dignity, both singly and collectively, are bound to submit to this power by the duty of hierarchical subordination and true obedience, and this not only in matters concerning faith and morals, but also in those which regard the discipline and government of the Church throughout the world.
“In this way, by unity with the Roman Pontiff in communion and in profession of the same faith, the Church of Christ becomes one flock under one Supreme Shepherd.
“This is the teaching of the Catholic truth, and no one can depart from it without endangering his faith and salvation.”
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In 2018 A.D., as His Holiness Pope Francis is the Vicar of Christ, God and His True Church command each Catholic to submit to Pope Francis’ God-given authority to teach, govern, and sanctify the Holy People of God.
Otherwise, a Catholic who has refused the above has fallen, at the very least, into schism.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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The real battle within the Church is/has been between two revolutionary parties, the Girondist/Menshevk’s such as Wojtyla/ Ratzinger versus the Jacobin/Bolshevik’s such as Bergoglio/Martini.
I personally don’t attribute bad motives to the Wojtyla/Ratzinger party (their appears to be a high degree of personal sanctity in both men), just bad philosophy/theology. This revolution (both parties) is built on philosophical/theological sand and WILL be utterly destroyed (the evidence of its failure are everywhere and for everyone to behold)!!
The Christian/Western world began experiencing a diabolical disorientation beginning 700 years ago with Ockam’s philosophical undermining, through Nominalism, of Aquinas’ (and the Church’s) heavenly philosophical synthesis of Faith/Reason.
What we are experiencing these past 60 years is the final assault on the Church’s traditional philosophical/theological bastions by the Nouvelle Théologie of the Girondist/Menshevk’s – Henri Du Lubac , Hans Urs von Balthasar and the Jacobin/Bolshevik’s – Rahner, Kung in conjunction with Liberation theologians like Gutiérrez.
The Holy Spirit warned the Church in clear unmistakable terms of this final assault publicly through numerous official papal admonitions from Popes Pius IX, Leo XIII, Pius X, Pius XI and Pius XII and privately through visionaries at LaSallete and Fatima as well as Saints such as Kolbe!
For those with ‘eyes to see’ it is quite apparent that we (and our children) are the ones to which the sins of our fathers (and our own) are reaching their fulfillment and therefore consigned to live through a great spiritual Chastisement which, most likely, will be followed by a great physical Chastisement.
It is incumbent on us, weak unworthy vessels, to fully grasp the nature of our situation, preserve the Faith (difficult when so many of us have been contaminated unknowingly with ‘good’ revolutionary thinking) and communicate it faithfully in word and charity to those with ‘ears to hear’ the Truth and willing to understand where we’ve been, where we are and where we’re going.
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Conceptually you have a point, but the details will show you how slippery that hermeneutic of continuity really is. All quotes from Wikipedia.
Immediately after V2 the journal Concilium was founded in 1965 to serve as the theological platform for pushing the transform. Who belonged to it?
“The journal was established by Anton van den Boogaard, Paul Brand, Yves Congar, Hans Küng, Johann Baptist Metz, Karl Rahner, and Edward Schillebeeckx.”
Ratzinger was affiliated with Concilium initially, but left supposedly to push reform rather than transform–less radical, right? He founded Communio in 1972. So who belonged to Communio?
“Communio is a federation of theological journals, founded in 1972 by Joseph Ratzinger, Hans Urs von Balthasar, Henri de Lubac, Walter Kasper, Marc Ouellet, Louis Bouyer, and others.”
That’s an absolute rogues’ gallery of heresy. You can add von Schoenborn, the homo lover, in there somewhere–the guy that Bergoglio uses now to push AL. He was Ratzi’s star pupil. Wojtyla cardinaled de Lubac and von Balthasar. In his final encyclical B16 actually quotes de Lubac by name, advancing the notion of universal salvation. And since beginning his Emeritus gig Ratzi continues to talk about his favorite Teilhardian concept: “cosmic transubstantiation.”
So much for Mensheviks v. Bolsheviks. Would you like the meal of your choice before we shoot you, or should we just shoot you right now?
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Harsh, but fair.
What puts some sand in the above gears is the fact that the rogues gallery turned on BXVI. Wonder why if he is just a stealth heretic.
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“the rogues gallery turned on BXVI.”
Of the five names mentioned, only Kasper turned on Ratzinger. Kasper took exception to Ratzinger as head of CDF siding with Wojtyla’s strictures against Communion for the divorced and remarried. Ratzinger had flirted with that position previously, so Kasper regarded him as a hypocrite. But that was simply part of Ratzinger’s gradualism. Those who mostly turned on Ratzinger were the Concilium people, whom Ratzinger nevertheless continued to advance into positions of influence and power.
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“(difficult when so many of us have been contaminated unknowingly with ‘good’ revolutionary thinking)”
Indeed. As one of my professors once ruefully said to me, “We’re all Moderns now.”
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This is one more example of the miserable fruits of the Second Vatican Council, so clear today.
…..excerpt from ‘The Return of the Muslim Threat’ by Atila Sinke Guimaraes (2002 A.D.)
“After Vatican II, the so-called ‘peaceful invasion’ of the Muslims into Europe began. Anesthetized by ‘the hypocritical smile of ecumenism’ and by illusions of the sincerity of a ‘moderate’ Islam, spread by Catholic progressivism. The invasion has been taking place in different phases.
First, ’there was a gradual but massive infiltration of clandestine immigrants into European countries, with the open support of the Catholic religious authorities. These ‘ecclesiastical authorities’ allege an obligation of charity for the European faithful to receive the immigrants.’
Second, ’the immigrants are being accepted by the average pragmatic European citizen because they permit a non-unionized, and thus much cheaper, labor force in a Europe entangled in labor taxes, laws and processes.
Third, ‘once established, the number of immigrants grows rapidly because they have many children. Every child born in a Western European country is usually considered a citizen of that country with the right to live there himself and to have his family join him. Therefore, having children became a normal means to gain the easy legalization of the immigrant parents. This policy has promoted a strong Islamic demographic expansion. At the same time, in the majority of these countries the birth rates of Western Europeans are diminishing rapidly.’
Fourth, ‘the immigrants begin to practice their religion under the protection of the law and with the support of Catholic authorities. The result has been the rapid and significant proliferation of mosques throughout Europe. Wealthy Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia are providing large amounts of money to build the mosques and spread the principles of their religion in the West.
The result of this process is that today (2002 A.D.) Western Europe has more than 15 million Muslims. (The well-informed Vaticanist Luigi Accattoli wrote this in the Italian newspaper ‘Corriere della Sera’ in 1993: “The Pope (JPII) wanted Europe to pray in all languages, including Arabian, because of the almost 15 million Muslims who live on our continent, almost half speak Arabic” + ‘Lo slavo Wojtyła apre le braccia ai ‘fratelli islamici,’ January 11, 1993).”
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OK, so B = FN is false? Except that Ratzi appointed the Bologna School Cardinal and gave the red hats to Kasper and Marx and Lehmann … and Bergoglio? I don’t say that B = FN without qualification–there are differences. But, in the big picture scheme it’s transparently obvious that J23 begot Paul (both of whom begot V2) who begot JP2 who begot B16 (and Bergoglio and many more) … and they all begot Bergoglio. The emperor’s new clothes.
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I was wrong about B16 giving the red hat to Bergoglio, but not about Tagle and the others. The point is that the “Hermeneutic of Continuity” is not what people think it is. Ratzi is just as skilled at constructing false, soothing narratives as any of the Bologna School. He just was personally more inclined to gradualism. But the goal has always been the same.
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I think it’s a bit more nuanced than that.
What BXVI was doing was that he was striking a balance between the radicals and the Catholics.
Bergoglio is just trying to stack the deck.
This will catch up with him and them, just a question of time…
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Uh, “striking a balance” is how we wound up with Bergoglio. The deck was already stacked.
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Not really. It was close…
St. Gallen Mafia needed to actually work the College to get Bergoglio over the top.
And they most likely had Obama administration help…
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““striking a balance”” Why? What sort of “balance” does the Lord want? What is the acceptable number being mislead to their damnation? Remember each of those “striking a balance” appointments of heretical Bishops (wolves) allowed them the chance to ravage their local Churches unopposed and then to advance to greater Offices. Hence PF.
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“Striking a balance” is an accurate way to describe the decision making process that Pope Benedict engaged in. What I think is important for Context purposes is that the Modernists/neo-Modernists/post-Modernist rot is not a VII phenomenon. It is actually a post French Revolution phenomenon. The reason that Benedict appointed heretics is that those heretics were in positions where he could appoint them. Here is a good background post about just this situation:
https://fromrome.wordpress.com/2015/01/10/team-bergoglio-and-the-legacy-of-cardinal-mariano-rampolla-del-tindaro/
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SA, I agree with your comments at 5:55 am that it is post French Revolution phenomenon. There were / are many things troubling with the background / friends / beliefs of BXVI before he was head of the CDF. As you know some of that is being rehashed in recent days to either show that he is well disposed to the non-changes changes of PF or that it is just more of the same.
I do find it very troubling that nearly all of the written items made public by BXVI, thru PF’s handlers, since his abdication, don’t “sound” like him. The style and phrases are nothing like what he had written in the past. They appear to have been “ghost written by PF’s toadies.
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Agree. The Post Counciliar is not Catholic, it is mostly Protestant as was intended by the Modernist planners of Vatican II. There is now a de facto schism which I would like to become de jure as soon as possible complete with a new Pope. It could be called the Orthodox Catholic Church and would include SSPX, FFSP, 5% of current Catholics, and the sedevacantists. We simply cannot keep the current dishonest situation in the Protestant Catholic Church of today going.
The other alternative would be an election of a strong truly orthodox Pope who would clean up the current situation. This would be a miracle and consequently unlikely.
What do you think Sam?
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Michael,
The only choice we have is to stand and fight. We have no other home but Rome. This is the greatest gift given us by the Saintly Archbishop Lefebvre. So even if Francis were to sodomize an altar boy on St. Peter’s Square while drunk and on opiads in front of the cameras, he is still the bishop of Rome “formally” until the valid Church authorities do what they have pledged their life to do.
Which is in fact what they “might” be doing. I don’t have enough information to judge at this time.
Hope that helps.
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PS But in the mean time, stop giving these leftists money!
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